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 Post subject: Tablica oklopa
PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 2:41 pm 
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Samo odokativno koja legija je koja imala u većini...
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 Post subject: Re: Tablica oklopa
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Onaj fluff što sam ga spominjao.

THERE WAS MUCH work to be done. With blacklight protocols lifted, the warriors and
crew of the Avenger could direct their efforts towards the consolidation of their strength. The
hasty rearmament and reorganisations after Isstvan were superseded by more deliberate
measures. Ad-hoc squads were broken up and reformed; legionaries were promoted to sergeants,
and sergeants raised to higher ranks still.
Amongst those who were busiest were the remaining handful of legionaries from the armourium.
The Raven Guard had lost most of their equipment during the long hit-and-run
battles of Isstvan V, and to the Techmarines now fell the task of ordering and repairing and
restocking the wargear of the reconstituted squads. The Avenger’s holds gave up a great
store of ammunition, but new power armour and weapons were insufficient for the two and a
half thousand legionaries on board. Armour replacements and spare parts were also at a
premium, and so, along with his fellow Techmarines, Stradon Binalt spent much of his time
working on the guns and armour the Raven Guard had salvaged from their defeated foes.
His existence became a blur of work, every waking hour filled with the crackle of arcwelders,
the smell of livery paint, the squeal of pneumatic ratchets and the heat of the ceramite
kilns.
Binalt was intrigued by the wargear that he came across, some of it very familiar, some of
it of radically different design, issued to other Legions from dozens of forge-worlds across the
Imperium. As best he could, he cobbled together repairs for the Mark IV suits of armour worn
by the majority of his comrades, bastardising pieces from the older Mark II and III suits taken
from the bodies of Word Bearers, Iron Warriors and World Eaters. Nothing was perfect and
every patch and jury-rig came only with the assurance that it would last a battle or two, should
the Avenger encounter the enemy again before reaching Terra.
THERE WAS LITTLE enough aboard the Avenger to work with, so compromises had to
be made. Most of the Legion’s armoured vehicles had been destroyed or abandoned at the
Urgall plateau, so spare parts for tanks and transports were not in short supply. Binalt and his
fellow Techmarines devised a way to reinforce the armour they had created, using the molecular
bonding studs usually employed for affixing armour and ablative plates to Rhinos and
Predators. This gave the suits a particular appearance, the shoulder guards sealed with rows
of large rivets that looked like nodules or blisters. Other vehicle parts – transmission cabling,
servos, even spare track links – were pressed into service as makeshift components for the
new armour design.
Slowly the legionaries started to look like Raven Guard again. Greaves, plastrons,
shoulder guards and vambraces that had sported the colours of all the Legions that had
fought on Isstvan were painted in the black of the Raven Guard, insignia lovingly applied,
each stroke of brush or sweep of spray obliterating the colours of former friend and foe alike,
as if the Legion were cleansing itself of the memories by covering their marks with their own
livery. (Deliverence Lost)

As the legionaries converged, several rows of armoured suits reflected back their lamps.
The metal and ceramite were bare, the suits silver and dull grey. Lifeless masks gazed back
at the commander as he turned left and right. There were several dozen sets of armour, each
locked in place against a strut welded to the floor.
‘Mark VI,’ said Noriz. ‘The latest design from Mars.’
Branne said nothing as he approached the closest rank of empty armour. It looked instantly
familiar, at first glance little different from the Mark IV armour he wore. On closer inspection,
the Raven Guard commander could see the subtle differences in panel shape and
bonding, the thicker material of the flexible joints, the solid greaves covering the knees. Most
obvious was the bolt-reinforced left shoulder plate and the helmet design.
‘They still require a little further work, I’m afraid,’ said Noriz. ‘Lord Dorn wished them
shipped out to you as soon as we were able. They’re artificer-made, pre-production. You’ll be
the first Legion in the Imperium to be issued with Mark VI.’
‘A nice gesture,’ said Branne. He ran his hand over the studded shoulder pad. ‘We performed
combat tests on the prototypes for two years, during the campaign through Scalland
sector. I see they’ve solved the problem of the abdominal plating we reported.’
‘Most of the improvements your Legion suggested were implemented,’ said Noriz, almost
wistfully. ‘Protection is no better than the Mark IV, but the internal systems are far more efficient.
The external cabling you see is supplemented by back-ups within the armour plate itself
without compromising defence or adding excessive weight. Auto-senses have also been improved.
In particular, auditory and olfactory pick-ups are much more sensitive. You will, no
doubt, be pleased to hear that the stealth capabilities of this suit exceed that of any other variant.’
Branne nodded. ‘You called it Mark VI. What happened to Mark V?’
Noriz pointed at the Raven Guard legionaries.
‘With full production not yet begun on Mars, these are the only suits available. Our companion
transport has another fifteen hundred of them, on top of the five hundred we are carrying.
In the absence of reliable Legion supply lines, the Mechanicum have designated all nonstandard
or stop-gap designs as Mark V. Many of the improvisations made by your armourium
after the dropsite massacre are being passed on to other Legions in the absence of replacement
parts for Mark IV. Your legionaries already have Mark V, commander.’
‘Why us?’ said Branne. ‘I’m thankful for the help, but this is a long way to come to pay us a
favour.’
‘In recognition of your part in testing the suits, and because you need them most. You
have been honoured. The Mark VI is to be known as the Corvus suit.’
Branne laughed and jabbed a finger towards the conical faceplate in front of him.
‘Because we’re the Raven Guard and the armour has a beak?’ he said. ‘Some honour!’
‘It is named after your lord, as thanks for the part you have played and the losses you
suffered when testing the prototypes,’ said Noriz, addressing his words to all of the Raven
Guard. ‘Lord Corax is insistent that the Raven Guard will take the fight to Horus’s forces. Lord
Dorn sends these gifts to your Legion as a mark of support and to assist in that endeavour.’
(Deliverence Lost)

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 Post subject: Re: Tablica oklopa
PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 9:15 am 
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Čupali kablove i stavljali u oklop...baš i nije od tenkova napravljen...

Mark 5 "Heresy Armour"
Ultramarine Mark 5 Heresy Armour

The equipping of the legions was only partially complete when the Horus Heresy broke out. Many of the Legions that had just been fully equipped with Mark IV armour turned against the Imperium while many of the loyal Legions had been deliberately starved of access to it and and remained operating with the older Mark II and Mark III armour. Additionally, even the Legions equipped with Mark IV suits quickly found themselves low on spare parts and unable to manufacture replacement units. With war damage and mobile operations, resupply for damaged equipment was difficult or impossible. Marine artificers and Techmarines had to use old style equipment from older models to keep the legions fighting, as well as salavage from slain enemies and unorthodox inovations of their own.[1][8]

This ad-hoc assemblage of various armour mark segments (including new or unoffical design elements) being created by a multitude of legions resulted in an entirely new mark of armour being 'accidentally' created; these previously non-standard, emergency/stopgap designs were retroactively termed as the Mark V once production of the Mark IV was halted and the design for the subsequent Corvus Armour mark (Mark VI) was finalised. Some form of standardisation across Mark V suits is is notable, despite their apparently random creation and individual varied origins, due to the dissemination of molecular bonding techniques across the legions. These techniques were developed due to battlefield experiece in fighting other Astartes; Astartes plate needed to be proof against their own penetrator weapons, and it was discovered that power armour would benefit from additional reinforcing in this regard.[6] All sorts of improvised additional armour can be seen on Mark V suits, but the most common technique was affix additional layers of armour with the aforementioned molecular bonding studs. This relatively quick and simple technique effectively added another ablative layer to marine armour suits. The extra weight this generated would prove considerable, however, which placed a strain on power supplies. As the addition of extra power generation sources and cabling would just require more armour plating, catching the design in an eternal circle, the wearers of the suit was forced to either deal with the additional weight, or turn up the power output of his backpack but suffer extreme heat output, which not only would prove uncomfortable and even compromising in certain situations,[1][8] and in many cases older, heavy power cabling was used, which created a weak point on the chest[8]

Many Mark V suits ended up featuring an unusual helmet design appropriated from supplies generated by the Tactical Dreadnought Armour program; this spin-off helmet featured similar levels of improved auto-senses as Terminator suits, but was still found to be inferior to those of Mark IV suits.[1] The respirator used for this helmet was codified as the Mantilla-pattern, and saw use as early as late M30.[10]

The Mark V would be the most common armour mark visible during the Horus Heresy, by its nature as a mark resulting directly from the concerns of that galactic civil war. As a result, the Mark V is commonly called the Heresy Suit and is distinguished by the molecular bonding studs often seem on areas such as helmet, shoulder plates and greaves. Few Imperial Space Marines are ever seen in Mark V suits today, as the loyalist Chapters either broke up these suits for spares or purposefully destroyed them after the Heresy was over. In contrast, many Chaos Space Marines still wear Mark V armour by default[1], either because they still possess their original suits or because they are forced to scavenge equipment.

This power armour carries resonances of the Imperium’s darkest hour and its greatest victory. Battle-Brothers will offer the wearer their respect. However, members of the Inquisition are instinctively suspicious of any connection to the Horus Heresy.[8]

1: White Dwarf 129 (UK)
8: Deathwatch: Rites of Battle,
10: The Horus Heresy Book One - Betrayal


Btw kolko vidim, kanonski je ono kaj radi Forge World u svojim knjigama za herezu, tako da će se izgleda neke stvari promjeniti/tweakati, tj neke već i jesu.

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 Post subject: Re: Tablica oklopa
PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 9:43 am 
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Pročitaj ponovno. Korištene su zakovice i dijelove gusjenice s tenkova da bi sve to sklepali. Nije baš da su samo koristili kablove.

Binalt and his fellow Techmarines devised a way to reinforce the armour they had created, using the molecular
bonding studs usually employed for affixing armour
and ablative plates to Rhinos and
Predators. This gave the suits a particular appearance, the shoulder guards sealed with rows
of large rivets that looked like nodules or blisters. Other vehicle parts – transmission cabling,
servos, even spare track links – were pressed into service as makeshift components for the
new armour design.

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 Post subject: Re: Tablica oklopa
PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 9:52 am 
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Neznam, ja bi to drugačije shvatio nego da su koristili dijelove oklopa al eto neka bude...
Inače nemoj mi citirati iz knjiga jer ću početi CS gotoa citirati.... [smilie=orcspash.gif]
Ak spejs marinac treba ubiti hordu tiranida, uvijek će bacati 6 plus na inv sejvove....

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 Post subject: Re: Tablica oklopa
PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 2:16 pm 
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evo ga odluka je pala... pocinjem skupljat world eatere cim izadje plasticni HH...

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