Dark Angels 2012

[TIFUSAR]

Rumors courtesy of Stickmonkey


HQ:
Azrael - Artificer or Terminator options. New model. Lions Helm grants 3+ Inv., Lion's Wrath grants Gets Hot rerolls (army-wide?), Master crafted Plasma Blaster (see Horus Heresy book?), Sword of Secrets is Sx2 Master Crafted Power weapon. Watcher in the Dark model is W:1 5+ Inv, with no other stats. It cannot be targeted by anything including blasts, and must stay within 2" of Azrael or is removed. Watcher can take Look Out Sirs.

Belial - Terminator armor. New model. Eternal Warrior 2+ Inv!!! Grants Elites Deathwing Termys Heroic Intervention if he is attached. Cannot take options, Master Crafted Strombolter. Sword of Secrets is a Relic Blade with an additional effect. Belian grants a buff to Termys within 6".

Sammael - If mounted in his Speeder, unlocks scoring Speeders. Can also take his normal bike.

Azmodai - Current model (finecast) Unlocks no units. His Litanies grants a longer ranged more potent buff.

Ezekiel - Current model (finecast), Psyker Level 3

Barakiel - Master of the Forge. Armed with a "Reaper Cannon" - 36" S:5 Assault (6 or 12?) AP:3 Extremely Expensive in points.

Librarian - Power Level 1 (upgrade to 2)
Company Master - Power Armor, or Terminator armor
Interrogator Chaplain
Command/Honor squad Terminators or Bikes with Belial or Sammael respectively, Apothecary, Standard bearer, 1x Heavy weapon upgrades. W:2 regardless of armor, or bikes.

Elites:

Chaplains / Brother-Interrogators - Unit size 1-3. Chaplain style death masks, dual bolt pistols and power maul. (can upgrade pistols). B-I have an increased BS over regular chaplains and can operate independantly as IC or join units, B-I only buff the unit they join with litanies (more potent version), while non-upgraded chaplains buff a 6" bubble. B-I are only characters if independent, and cannot leave attached units (similar to Wolfguard).

Inner Circle Unit Terminator armor. W:1, Heroic Intervention if Belial is attached to the unit. WS/BS 5. They get a cover save upon deepstriking. "Lion-themed" visually. Entire unit can purchase Sergeant upgrades. No heavy weapons, Unit max size:5. Categorized as Deathwing Assault Unit


Dreadnought - Venerable and Mortis options. Categorized as Deathwing Assault Unit.
Scouts - Land Speeder Storm as dedicated transport. "Markerlight" effect targets one enemy unit - other Dark Angels units then get a bonus (reroll to hit?) versus the unit as long as the Scouts are within line of sight to thier "Fallen" target. Teleport Homer. Sergeant Namaan (WOOHOO!!) returns, granting Reserve rerolls to all Death Wing units.

Techmarine
Veterans


Deathwing
Honor Guard Terminator squad unlocked by select HQs (Belial - others???). One such unit per HQ, only one may carry a Chapter Banner. Other banners exist however. Models are W:2 WS/BS:5 Non-scoring. Can take Apothecary.

Elite Terminators are W:1, WS/BS:5. Unit has new CC options neverbefore seen on termys. Unit size max of 5. Vanguard Strike upon Deepstriking!

Troops Terminators are standard DW. Sergeant may upgrade to to Chaplain. Can take new options such as Plasma Cannon. Up to 10 models per unit. No more Cyclone/CC option on single models. Mix of CC and Ranged models still permitted withing unit.

Ravenwing

RW Command Squad is only unlocked by select HQ characters. One banner option for RW. No apothecary for RW, with a "Mini-Chaplain" upgrade instead. This option provide a Litanies buff his unit only.

Troop RW squad matches the current RW bike squad, minus the Speeder.

RW Attack Bikes - plasma gunner option
RW Land Speeders - plasma gunner option

[Malleus Malleficarum]

Zvuci prilicno zanimljivo za sada

[Dark Cross]

Malo zbrda-zdola izgleda, ali bi moglo biti zanimljivo slazem se sa Klom.

[Likvor]

Meni ovo vrlo dobro/zanimljivo izgleda.
Dethwing i Ravenwing bi mogle postati vrlo viable vojske(kak kažu na par stranjskih foruma - tourney army). *

* - Sada su samo "fun&fluffy to play"


"Can take new options such as Plasma Cannon" -
Ovo me uvijek zanimalo, zašto termiji, u onom svom tenku od oklopa mogu nositi miniganove i rack rocket launchera a ne mogu neku verziju heavy weapona dostupnu običnim marincima? Jel to fluff related?

[Krunkova]

Je , to je fluff related.

Razlog je (prema fluffu) -

Terminator armour je dizajniran za Space Hulkove- težak, velik itd. Prvotna oružja za terminatore ( za borbu po space hulkovima) su Assault cannon i hevi flejmer te naravno CML.

Plasma ,kao takva je izprva bila na tenkovima i dreadnoughtima

[Likvor]

CML nije za space hulk i skučene prostore. Nikad bio, nikad neće bit. Čak ni assault cannon nije za skučene prostore, preglomazno je to, ko da hodaš s kompljem u tunelu.

"It was first intended to provide heavy armour and firepower to troops fighting in cramped battle zones, such as the claustrophobic tunnels of hive worlds and Space Hulks, which are too confined for Dreadnoughts and vehicles. "

Ali nije mi jasno zašto recimo ne mogu furati multimeltu? Sada će dobiti plasma cannon, ML već imaju, HB nose bez problema, možda čak i TL, Lascannon bi isto mogli. Nema baš nekih referneci u fluffu koje to točno definiraju, možeš si samo zabrijavati kaj su točno mislili kad su ga dizajnirali.

no da ne kenjamo više OT, vidim da će se ova rasprava vrtiti u krug jer svako ima svoj šupa...mišljenje a nigdje dokaza od Gw-a. nastavimo dalje s DA rumorima pliz.

[Krunkova]

Mislim da će novi codex biti totalna sirela...

[Likvor]

ne mora biti. i ja sam mislio za novi kaos pa je ispao koliko toliko u redu(meni fali više fluffy opcija kao u ediciji 3.5, al to sam ja brijem pa eto...)

[Krunkova]

Prijatelju- to su marinci...

Onaj 3.5 chaos codex je bio mrak- najbolji od svih. Fluffi, jak- jedino kaj je tada odskakalo su Iron warriori

[TIFUSAR]

TROOPS:
Deathwing Terminators - Same general layout as we have now, but with additional Plasma Cannon and Autocannon heavy weapon options.

Tactical Squads - The old classics we all love, moving on...

Ravenwing Bike Squad - Up to ten bikers, for each 5 bikes, you may upgrade one to an Attack bike. Attack bike gunner options are: HB, MM, HF, Twin-linked Plasmagun!. Squad can Combat Squad and has Teleport Homers.


FAST ATTACK:

Ravenwing Landspeeder Support Squad - Same as now, but gunner option are: HB, MM, HF, Twin-linked Plasmagun!

Ravenwing Bike Support Squad - Full Attack Bike unit (this might also be a duplicate report of the TROOPS Bike Squad)

Assault Squad - Same old classic jump-pack squad we have now.

Ravenclaw Air Superiority Fighter - Dual "Reaper Cannons" allowing Snap Shots on flyers. Can be replaced with 2x Missiles, or 2x Plasma Cannons.

[Likvor]

Darkshroud
Land Speeder variant which has an ancient statue from the Fortress-Monastery. Using channeled warp energy, it creates and impenetrable field of darkness beneath and behind itself.

Dark Talon
Flyer of unknown size which operates in squadrons, armed with hurricane bolters, maybe more.

Nephilim Strike Fighter
Variant on the Avenger, has wingtip-mounted Blacksword Missiles and an Avenger weapon system.

Black Knights
The Ravenwing elite, they have plasma weapons on all their bikes, and instead carry raven head-shaped thunderhammers into battle, with the Hunt Master having a corvus hammer.

[Krunkova]

A na kolko pređu u Kaos?

Do sad je bilo na 5+

[Likvor]

Cijelokupni Dark angles proizvodi maknuti i ostavljeni su samo template-i za novosti koje će (navodno vrlo skoor) doći:
https://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/landingArmy.jsp?catId=cat440171a&rootCatGameStyle&_requestid=1705575

[Likvor]

izašla prva slikica kako će izgledati black knightovi:

[Likvor]

http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?27209-Here-they-are-Dark-Angels-Jan-2013

pa ne zgledaju loše.osim land speedera koji je blago čudan.